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  Hatred From My Children for Not Leaving the Organization Earlier

  by new boy in

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  i'm not proud of the fact that it took me over 50 years to realized what the organization really was and to finally leave it.

  not proud at all, i feel pretty stupid.

  however i didn't lose my children.

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  new boy

  I apologized to my son today, in person. It wasn't just the JW thing. His life kind of went to shit after his divorcee. I have become a giant pinata for him. The JW thing was just one of many ways he can point out my short comings....which of course are many.

  He has plenty of time to sit around and think about how screwed over he is. The many poor choices he and other people like me have made that has created the hell he is now in.

  The blame game....

  Funny how family members know all your hot buttons. I already feel bad enough about my many wasted years as a Jehovah's Witness and than to get it all thrown back into my face.....salt on the wound.
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  Hatred From My Children for Not Leaving the Organization Earlier

  by new boy in

  1. jw
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  i'm not proud of the fact that it took me over 50 years to realized what the organization really was and to finally leave it.

  not proud at all, i feel pretty stupid.

  however i didn't lose my children.

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  new boy

  I have forgiving my messed up parents for the bull shit they handed down to me. My son was in it for only 21 years and me over 50.

  But your right I do need to apologize to him.

  As they say "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

  Funny isn't it how we all want some slack cut for ourselves but justice for everyone else.

  Hey Broken Back Watchtower I truly love you man but remember we can't talk about Ayahuasca here or anything else that might expand ones conscience.
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  Hatred From My Children for Not Leaving the Organization Earlier

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm not proud of the fact that it took me over 50 years to realized what the organization really was and to finally leave it.

  not proud at all, i feel pretty stupid.

  however i didn't lose my children.

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  new boy

  So if you are thinking of leaving, remember everyday you wait you are adding one more day in the many years it will take to clean this cancerous thought system it out of your lives....if in fact that is even a possiblity, as my our family can attest to.
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  Hatred From My Children for Not Leaving the Organization Earlier

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm not proud of the fact that it took me over 50 years to realized what the organization really was and to finally leave it.

  not proud at all, i feel pretty stupid.

  however i didn't lose my children.

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  new boy

  Time?

  My children and I have been out for 17 years...

  Even my grand children are dealing with the effects of how my children (their parents) have been raised.

  The sad true is, it will take a couple of generations to get this nasty shit completely out of our lives.
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  Hatred From My Children for Not Leaving the Organization Earlier

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm not proud of the fact that it took me over 50 years to realized what the organization really was and to finally leave it.

  not proud at all, i feel pretty stupid.

  however i didn't lose my children.

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  new boy

  No after leaving Bethel, I decided I would never be in a position of oversight because I saw what power did to people. I probably hold the record for being MS for the longest period in the society's history... lol
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  Go Bags, Safe houses and cartoon of two kids.

  by scruffmcbuff in

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  i have been out a good 10+ years and until recently didnt pay much attention to what the jehovahs are up to.. why have they taken this turn with the bunker videos and making all the brainwashed people like my parents pack a go bag.

  now let me just clarify.

  im a military man i believe everyone should have an element of preparedness canned goods,bottled water and a bug out bag is a great addition ( ill stop waffling on about that now).. but what concerns me is the fact they are advising elderly people to bug out.

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  Go bags?

  I guess Jehovah doesn't have the ability to save people where ever they happen to be. They must get a bag and move to a new location...and that is the spot Jehovah can save you at.

  cool aid anyone?
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  Hatred From My Children for Not Leaving the Organization Earlier

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm not proud of the fact that it took me over 50 years to realized what the organization really was and to finally leave it.

  not proud at all, i feel pretty stupid.

  however i didn't lose my children.

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  new boy

  I'm not proud of the fact that it took me over 50 years to realized what the organization really was and to finally leave it. Not proud at all, I feel pretty stupid.

  I started to realize that the organization was bull shit about four to five years before I actually made the brake.

  I like so many others here, was hesitant and not ready to lose everything I had....to lose the only world I had ever known. My wife, friends and family and even my two children. In my heart I felt my children would make the brake too back then, but there was no guarantees for sure and it could have gone either way.

  This is an old story that has been played out many times. Half the kids stay in the "Borg" while the other half leave and make their break to freedom.

  When the brake came, when the spinning plates came crashing down I did lose all those things, a 27 marriage, all my "friends" and most my family. No regrets... It was the best move of my life.

  However I didn't lose my children. They were adults at the time. Me leaving confirmed the doubts they too were having about the Watchtower Bible and Truck Society. So they too have left with no regrets. So happy ending right....not quite.

  Last October my son confronted me. He was very angry about how his life had gone.

  Like many here he wasn't angry about leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses. He was angry about having been one for 21 years. He was totally pissed off about all the things he had to give up being raised as a Jehovah's Witness, school sports, friends, dating, etc etc ...you know a normal life. I can't say I blame him, because I had lost the same things too.

  However, I was surprised when he turned this rage towards me. Since he knew I hadn't agreed with their program many years before I left. Evidently by me not leaving years earlier I had screwed up his life.

  I guess he is right. I should have stood up and called bull shit years before I did. I guess I caused just as much damage staying in as I did by leaving.

  However if I had left years earlier he and his sister would have been in their earlier teens. Their JW mother would have got custody of them. In which case they still would have been raised as a JW anyway. I feel there would be a higher possiblity their staunch JW mother could have now fully brain wash them further.

  Would they still would leave the organization years later....who knows.

  Whats the point of all this... I don't know.

  Maybe the point is that there is going to be damage anytime you are leaving an occult.

  Pay the doctor now or pay the doctor later...but you will be paying the doctor!

  There is no easy out.

  New Boy
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  Growing Up Strange (even for a JW)

  by GizmoSnicket in

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  i've been meaning to join an online ex-jw community for quite some time, and finally have made the effort to do so.

  i was raised in a small/mid size city in the northeast united states.

  i am currently 27 years old, just about five years fully out of the organization (after about two years of "fading" away).

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  It sounds like you are a thoughtful and intelligent person. So of course after taking the "red pill" your choice was clear. It took me over 50 years to finally make it out. You have a long life ahead of you. Help who you can and leave the rest behind.

  Namaste

  New Boy
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  The Society's Strange Answer to Whether Surviving Armageddon is Mankind's First or Second Chance?

  by new boy in

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  one of the things that i read way back in 1973 that change my thoughts about the question of whether we earn our way into the new system (as the society would like you believe) or is it a free give.

  the answer the society gave was quit surprising.

  when i was still a jw and went back to the world headquarters in 1996 it was the first thing i asked cerio allisino who is the writing department.

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  One of the things that I read way back in 1973 that change my thoughts about the question of whether we earn our way into the new system (as the society would like you believe) or is it a free give. The answer the society gave was quit surprising. When I was still a JW and went back to the world headquarters in 1996 it was the first thing I asked Cerio Allisino who is the writing department. He informed me the information was correct. The statement was in the "God's reign of a thousand years is now approaching" book. Page 129 paragraph 32. It said this. It was very surprising what the society had to say.

  "Because of being born sinful and condemned to death mankind never had "a chance" It could never justify itself before the God of absolute perfection by doing perfect works of righteousness and ridding itself of sinfulness."

  So get this.... it goes on to say.

  "So Judgement Day does not offer mankind what is called "a second chance" Rather, it affords to mankind ts first opportunity to gain eternal life in human perfection and absolute innocence in an earthly Paradise!"

  Of course to me back then this would make more sense. How could any man be judged with all that sin an imperfection? So how could any man.... Jehovah's Witness or not even a Jehovah's Witness, be judged? After all THEY said we "never had a first chance "

  So what is all this "working hard" and "exerting vigorously" thing about? Which is it? Is it a free gift as they even claim it is....or are your working your way there, as the as they would have you believe from their many remarks from their pulpit?

  How can you believe in any organization that can't even keep their own stories straight?

  Also I guess this another reason you can't research any of their publications older than 1980 on their web site!

  cool aid anyone?
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  The Latest Thing Waking People Up...

  by pale.emperor in

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  since i woke up and left i've been contacted by others i knew from my youth who've also left the cult.

  also people around the world on facebook adding me out of the blue because we have mutual friends and they occasionally ask me stuff or share their story.. what i've noticed in the vast majority of cases, is that people are waking up not because of the arc or doctrine but apathy.

  active jws are becoming less and less interested, less and less bothered.

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  "That when Armageddon comes Jehovah will look at their hands and see blood on them?"

  Yeah you stupid idiots! because you guys didn't get off your fat asses and knock on doors, I now have to kill all these people but their blood is on YOUR hands not mine.....thus saith the lord god Jehovah.

  cool aid anyone?